{"id":2546,"date":"2009-05-04T09:02:54","date_gmt":"2009-05-04T13:02:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/?p=2546"},"modified":"2009-05-04T09:04:47","modified_gmt":"2009-05-04T13:04:47","slug":"windows-media-center-extender-follow-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/2009\/05\/04\/windows-media-center-extender-follow-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Windows Media Center Extender Follow-Up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, it\u2019s been over a month since I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/2009\/03\/26\/trying-out-a-windows-media-center-extender\/\">set up my new Windows Media Center Extender<\/a>, so now I can talk about how it works over the long term.<\/p>\n<p>Keeping in mind that I bought my extender on sale for a measly $99, and that normal models can go for a <em>lot<\/em> more (I\u2019ve seen models in stores with HDD-based DVR-capabilities running upwards of almost $500), I can\u2019t say that I\u2019m disappointed with it\u2026 but I can\u2019t exactly say I\u2019m <em>pleased<\/em> with it, either.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not to say I have buyer\u2019s remorse or anything, though. I like having it \u2013 it is handy to be able to pull up some music while I\u2019m cleaning, for example, or to sit down and watch some movies I\u2019ve got on my computer out in the living room (on the big \u2013 well, <em>bigger<\/em> screen) \u2013 but I guess the bottom line with Windows Media Center Extenders is that they are \u201c<strong>not bad, but not perfect.<\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For example, it goes without saying that music purchased from iTunes isn\u2019t going to play via a Media Center Extender (unless it\u2019s the DRM-free kind). The Linksys extender comes with a software program to \u201cimport\u201d your iTunes playlists into Media Center, which it does\u2026 but as for playing iTunes music, well, it sort of \u201chacks\u201d it. The software uses a feature of many sound cards which is often called \u201cwhat you hear\u201d \u2013 basically, it\u2019s a way of recording exactly what is playing through your sound card (without using a loopback cable or anything). And, yeah, it works\u2026 but while it\u2019s working, your computer is playing music too!<\/p>\n<p>What the software does is when you choose an iTunes DRM-protected song from the Media Center Extender, it opens up iTunes on your computer and starts playing the song \u2013 using the \u201cwhat you hear\u201d recorder to effectively \u201cre-record\u201d or \u201ctranscode\u201d the music and stream it back out to the extender. As I said, it\u2019s a bit of a hack. (And it\u2019s kind of annoying if someone is using the computer while the extender is in use, too.)<\/p>\n<p>iTunes aside, there are also a few other niggling issues which make the experience of the Media Center Extender \u201cjust OK\u201d rather than \u201creally nice.\u201d<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It\u2019s slow \u2013 dog slow. The UI feels like it\u2019s made of cold molasses.<\/li>\n<li>It doesn\u2019t play nearly as many video formats as your computer can.<\/li>\n<li>Managing playlists (for music) is more than a bit of a pain in the neck \u2013 sometimes playlists that you can see on your computer in Media Center don\u2019t show up on the Extender until much, much later (as in, the next day).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Now, I know there are very valid technical reasons for some of these things \u2013 the slow UI comes from the fact that it\u2019s sort of a hybrid of a remote desktop client, and although it\u2019s slow, it\u2019s at least bearable. The video format problem comes from the fact that video is not streamed in raw format across the network (it\u2019d take up too much bandwidth, I suppose), but instead the video <em>file<\/em> is streamed, and then decoded on the extender device itself (and since the extender doesn\u2019t have a very powerful CPU, it doesn\u2019t have the muscle for certain video formats\/codecs).<\/p>\n<p>The playlist thing I really don\u2019t understand \u2013 I know that there\u2019s a \u201cMedia Center Maintenance\u201d task that runs every night, and after that runs my playlists will show up on the extender \u2013 but I don\u2019t know why that is. It\u2019s incredibly frustrating sometimes \u2013 I\u2019ll make a new playlist on my computer (where the UI is faster), but it won\u2019t show up on my extender right away.<\/p>\n<p>As for the video format limits \u2013 there <em>are<\/em> ways around that, of course, but they are all generally video versions of the same method used by the iTunes software \u2013 something called \u201ctranscoding.\u201d Basically, when you choose to play a file, your computer will transform it from whatever format it\u2019s in to a format that the extender can understand \u2013 <em>on the fly, as you\u2019re playing it<\/em>. Sounds like it\u2019d work pretty well, if your computer has a bit of CPU power to spare (re-encoding video on-the-fly is very CPU intensive). Unfortunately, it doesn\u2019t work very well. I\u2019ve tried several methods to do it, and they\u2019ve all failed, horribly. Some people claim to have much better luck with it \u2013 I guess I\u2019m just not one of those people.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, I just seem to come back to my original conclusion \u2013 Windows Media Center Extenders are \u201cjust OK\u201d or \u201cnot bad.\u201d They certainly do what they are supposed to\u2026 if slowly and within some rather draconian technical limitations. You\u2019d think with competition from things like Apple\u2019s Mac TV thing that Media Center Extenders would raise the bar or something \u2013 but sadly they do not. (And if you own a Media Center Extender, stay away from anyone with an Apple computer hooked up to their TV \u2013 you\u2019ll become insanely jealous. As always, the Mac does things so much better, cleaner, and more elegantly.)<\/p>\n<p>So if you can get a good price on an extender (as I did), and you want that kind of functionality (and you\u2019re a Windows household, of course), I\u2019d say go for it. It won\u2019t be great, but you\u2019ll still be able to do things you couldn\u2019t before. But if you paid a lot of money for an extender\u2026 well, you have my sympathy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been over a month since I brought a Linksys-branded Windows Media Center Extender into my home. How is it holding up? Is it cutting the mustard? Was it worth the price? Maybe, but only if you bought it on sale.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"webmentions_disabled_pings":false,"webmentions_disabled":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[202,199],"tags":[23,198,24],"class_list":["post-2546","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gadgets","category-my-opinion","tag-computers","tag-hardware","tag-windows","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pimUj-F4","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1875,"url":"https:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/2009\/03\/26\/trying-out-a-windows-media-center-extender\/","url_meta":{"origin":2546,"position":0},"title":"Trying out a Windows Media Center Extender","author":"Keith Survell","date":"March 26, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"I found a good deal on a Linksys DMA2200 Media Center Extender, and so I bought it. 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