{"id":1114,"date":"2008-05-14T16:21:53","date_gmt":"2008-05-14T21:21:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/?p=1114"},"modified":"2011-09-11T09:15:56","modified_gmt":"2011-09-11T13:15:56","slug":"really-annoying-flaw-in-ntfs-mount-points","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/2008\/05\/14\/really-annoying-flaw-in-ntfs-mount-points\/","title":{"rendered":"Really Annoying Flaw in NTFS Mount Points"},"content":{"rendered":"

UPDATE:<\/strong> As some people have noted, this problem was fixed in Windows Vista, so “it’s not really a problem anymore.” And with Windows 7 out now, and Windows XP slowly dying, there’s no real reason to worry about this anymore. But I’m leaving this article here, just for the sake of posterity.<\/p>\n

I found out (the hard way) about this particular problem with NTFS Mount points<\/a> today:<\/p>\n

When you try to delete folders that are stored on a mounted drive and to send them to the Recycle Bin, you may receive the following error message:<\/p>\n

Cannot delete Foldername<\/var>: Access is denied. The source file may be in use.<\/strong><\/p>\n

This behavior occurs because the Recycle Bin does not understand mounted volumes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This was really freaking annoying<\/strong>. What makes it even worse is that there is no “fix” for the problem; only a workaround is available. And the workaround?<\/p>\n

When you delete the files or folders by using Windows Explorer, use the SHIFT+DELETE key combination. This bypasses the Recycle Bin.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Riiiiiiiiight<\/em>. Because bypassing the Recycle Bin is exactly what I want to do WHEN IT’S MY ENTIRE USER PROFILE FOLDER THAT IS ON A MOUNTED DRIVE!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Now I’m really pissed off, because I no longer have the capability to try and go back to the configuration I originally planned to use with the new drive (copy partition & resize to new drive) – this is because I’ve already mounted the new drive and formatted it. Changing this now would involve a lot of copying data around and resizing of partitions, without being able to have a “backup” in place as before – a risk I’m not willing to take.<\/p>\n

I may have to put on my Windows Hacker Hat for this one and figure out how to either:<\/p>\n

    \n
  1. Make the Windows Recycle Bin understand Mounted drives, or;<\/li>\n
  2. Make Windows automatically bypass the Recycle Bin for Mounted drives.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Because remembering to SHIFT+DEL every time I want to delete a folder from anywhere in my user profile directory (including but not limited to: My Documents, My Music, My Videos, My Pictures, etc.) is just not OK<\/em>. Never mind what it’s going to do to programs that try to delete things – I can just see all the error messages now!<\/p>\n

    If anyone from Microsoft is reading this – especially anyone from the shell\/explorer team – please, please, please<\/em> bump this bug up in priority – I’m begging you!!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    UPDATE: As some people have noted, this problem was fixed in Windows Vista, so “it’s not really a problem anymore.” And with Windows 7 out now, and Windows XP slowly dying, there’s no real reason to worry about this anymore. But I’m leaving this article here, just for the sake of posterity. I found out… Continue reading Really Annoying Flaw in NTFS Mount Points<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"webmentions_disabled_pings":false,"webmentions_disabled":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[10,5],"tags":[145,146,62,147],"class_list":["post-1114","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rants","category-technology","tag-computer","tag-frustration","tag-microsoft","tag-troubleshooting","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pimUj-hY","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1873,"url":"https:\/\/www.starkeith.net\/coredump\/2009\/03\/17\/i-upgraded-to-vista-but-for-all-the-wrong-reasons\/","url_meta":{"origin":1114,"position":0},"title":"I Upgraded to Vista – But for all the Wrong Reasons","author":"Keith Survell","date":"March 17, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Even though I swore I wouldn\u2019t upgrade to Vista, just recently I bit the bullet and did it anyway. 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